{"id":130,"date":"2010-04-23T19:41:11","date_gmt":"2010-04-24T03:41:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.roastgeek.com\/wordpress\/?p=130"},"modified":"2010-04-23T21:58:06","modified_gmt":"2010-04-24T05:58:06","slug":"problems-with-thermometer-yay","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.roastgeek.com\/wordpress\/2010\/04\/23\/problems-with-thermometer-yay\/","title":{"rendered":"Problems with thermometer &#8211; YAY!"},"content":{"rendered":"\r\n\t<!-- sfs forms added to the_content - adding as a comment so that it will not display, but will it fool spammers?\r\n\t<br>\r\n\t<br>\r\n\t<form action=\"https:\/\/www.roastgeek.com\/wordpress\/wp-comments-post.php\" method=\"post\" id=\"commentform1\">\r\n\t<p><input name=\"author\" id=\"author\" value=\"\" size=\"22\"  aria-required=\"true\" type=\"text\">\r\n\t<label for=\"author\"><small>Name (required)<\/small><\/label><\/p>\r\n\r\n\t<p><input name=\"email\" id=\"email\" value=\"\" size=\"22\"  aria-required=\"true\" type=\"text\">\r\n\t<label for=\"email\"><small>Mail (will not be published) (required)<\/small><\/label><\/p>\r\n\r\n\t<p><input name=\"url\" id=\"url\" value=\"\" size=\"22\" type=\"text\">\r\n\t<label for=\"url\"><small>Website<\/small><\/label><\/p>\r\n\t<p><textarea name=\"comment\" id=\"comment\" cols=\"58\" rows=\"10\" ><\/textarea><\/p>\r\n\r\n\t<p>\r\n\t<input name=\"comment_post_ID\" value=\"130\" id=\"comment_post_ID\" type=\"hidden\">\r\n\t<input name=\"comment_parent\" id=\"comment_parent\" value=\"0\" type=\"hidden\">\r\n\t<\/p>\r\n\r\n\t<p><input id=\"akismet_comment_nonce\" name=\"akismet_comment_nonce\" value=\"1f74737c40\" type=\"hidden\"><\/p>\r\n\t<\/form>\r\n\r\n\t<form id=\"setupform1\" method=\"post\" action=\"wp-signup.php\" >\r\n\r\n\t<input type=\"hidden\" name=\"stage\" value=\"validate-user-signup\"   \/>\r\n\t<p ><input id=\"akismet_comment_nonce\" name=\"akismet_comment_nonce\" value=\"1f74737c40\" type=\"hidden\"><\/p>\t\t\r\n\t<p>\r\n\t<input id=\"signupblog\" type=\"radio\" name=\"signup_for\" value=\"blog\"  checked='checked' \/>\r\n\t<label class=\"checkbox\" for=\"signupblog\">Gimme a site!<\/label>\r\n\t<br \/>\r\n\t<input id=\"signupuser\" type=\"radio\" name=\"signup_for\" value=\"user\"  \/>\r\n\t<label class=\"checkbox\" for=\"signupuser\">Just a username, please.<\/label>\r\n\t<\/p>\r\n\t<\/form>\r\n\r\n\t<form name=\"loginform1\" id=\"loginform1\" action=\"https:\/\/www.roastgeek.com\/wordpress\/wp-login.php\" method=\"post\">\r\n\t<p>\r\n\t<label for=\"user_login\">User Name<br \/>\r\n\t<input type=\"text\" name=\"log\"  value=\"\" size=\"20\"  \/><\/label>\r\n\t<\/p>\r\n\t<p>\r\n\t<label for=\"user_pass\">Password<br \/>\r\n\t<input type=\"password\" name=\"pwd\"  value=\"\" size=\"20\"  \/><\/label>\r\n\t<\/p>\r\n\t<p class=\"forgetmenot\"><label for=\"rememberme\"><input name=\"rememberme\" type=\"checkbox\" checked=\"checked\"  value=\"1f74737c40\"  \/>Remember Me<\/label><\/p>\r\n\t<p class=\"submit\">\r\n\t<input type=\"hidden\" name=\"testcookie\" value=\"1\" \/>\r\n\t<\/p>\r\n\t<input id=\"akismet_comment_nonce\" name=\"akismet_comment_nonce\" value=\"1f74737c40\" type=\"hidden\">\r\n\t<\/form>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\t-->\r\n\t<p>So I finally got a chance to try a roast with the thermometer.\u00a0 At approximately 3.5 minutes into the roast in the reading it crossed 482 and would no longer read.\u00a0 This is OBVIOUSLY not a correct reading.\u00a0 I expected some imperfection in the readings due to this probe expecting liquid\/solid meat as opposed to air\/dry readings but everything is significantly off.\u00a0 First crack came as a reading of 449 which puts me a good 50 degrees above where I expect to be and follows about 50 degrees over everything I expected during the roast for the color changes etc.<\/p>\n<p>My theory is that the probe is so long that it has to be inserted through the grate on the chaff collector on top.\u00a0 The probe is then picking up heat transferred by the chaff collector that it is touching and particularly the metallic disc embedded in the lid being transferred through the plastic.<\/p>\n<p>The cooling cycle lasts approximately 2.5(ish) minutes and it ends at an unusually high number.\u00a0 With the probe and chaff covered removed and sitting 5+ minutes it still shows a temperature in the 90s so this is certainly picking up the temperature from the cover.\u00a0 At this point I will need to attempt to remove the probe in some way and see what else I can do to &#8220;shrink&#8221; 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