{"id":655,"date":"2012-04-19T18:02:19","date_gmt":"2012-04-20T02:02:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.roastgeek.com\/wordpress\/?p=655"},"modified":"2012-06-06T19:51:38","modified_gmt":"2012-06-07T03:51:38","slug":"adventures-in-custom-cases","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.roastgeek.com\/wordpress\/2012\/04\/19\/adventures-in-custom-cases\/","title":{"rendered":"Adventures in Custom Cases"},"content":{"rendered":"\r\n\t<!-- sfs forms added to the_content - adding as a comment so that it will not display, but will it fool spammers?\r\n\t<br>\r\n\t<br>\r\n\t<form action=\"https:\/\/www.roastgeek.com\/wordpress\/wp-comments-post.php\" method=\"post\" id=\"commentform1\">\r\n\t<p><input name=\"author\" id=\"author\" value=\"\" size=\"22\"  aria-required=\"true\" type=\"text\">\r\n\t<label for=\"author\"><small>Name (required)<\/small><\/label><\/p>\r\n\r\n\t<p><input name=\"email\" id=\"email\" value=\"\" size=\"22\"  aria-required=\"true\" type=\"text\">\r\n\t<label for=\"email\"><small>Mail (will not be published) (required)<\/small><\/label><\/p>\r\n\r\n\t<p><input name=\"url\" id=\"url\" value=\"\" size=\"22\" type=\"text\">\r\n\t<label for=\"url\"><small>Website<\/small><\/label><\/p>\r\n\t<p><textarea name=\"comment\" id=\"comment\" cols=\"58\" rows=\"10\" ><\/textarea><\/p>\r\n\r\n\t<p>\r\n\t<input name=\"comment_post_ID\" value=\"655\" id=\"comment_post_ID\" type=\"hidden\">\r\n\t<input name=\"comment_parent\" id=\"comment_parent\" value=\"0\" type=\"hidden\">\r\n\t<\/p>\r\n\r\n\t<p><input id=\"akismet_comment_nonce\" name=\"akismet_comment_nonce\" value=\"1f74737c40\" type=\"hidden\"><\/p>\r\n\t<\/form>\r\n\r\n\t<form id=\"setupform1\" method=\"post\" action=\"wp-signup.php\" >\r\n\r\n\t<input type=\"hidden\" name=\"stage\" value=\"validate-user-signup\"   \/>\r\n\t<p ><input id=\"akismet_comment_nonce\" name=\"akismet_comment_nonce\" value=\"1f74737c40\" type=\"hidden\"><\/p>\t\t\r\n\t<p>\r\n\t<input id=\"signupblog\" type=\"radio\" name=\"signup_for\" value=\"blog\"  checked='checked' \/>\r\n\t<label class=\"checkbox\" for=\"signupblog\">Gimme a site!<\/label>\r\n\t<br \/>\r\n\t<input id=\"signupuser\" type=\"radio\" name=\"signup_for\" value=\"user\"  \/>\r\n\t<label class=\"checkbox\" for=\"signupuser\">Just a username, please.<\/label>\r\n\t<\/p>\r\n\t<\/form>\r\n\r\n\t<form name=\"loginform1\" id=\"loginform1\" action=\"https:\/\/www.roastgeek.com\/wordpress\/wp-login.php\" method=\"post\">\r\n\t<p>\r\n\t<label for=\"user_login\">User Name<br \/>\r\n\t<input type=\"text\" name=\"log\"  value=\"\" size=\"20\"  \/><\/label>\r\n\t<\/p>\r\n\t<p>\r\n\t<label for=\"user_pass\">Password<br \/>\r\n\t<input type=\"password\" name=\"pwd\"  value=\"\" size=\"20\"  \/><\/label>\r\n\t<\/p>\r\n\t<p class=\"forgetmenot\"><label for=\"rememberme\"><input name=\"rememberme\" type=\"checkbox\" checked=\"checked\"  value=\"1f74737c40\"  \/>Remember Me<\/label><\/p>\r\n\t<p class=\"submit\">\r\n\t<input type=\"hidden\" name=\"testcookie\" value=\"1\" \/>\r\n\t<\/p>\r\n\t<input id=\"akismet_comment_nonce\" name=\"akismet_comment_nonce\" value=\"1f74737c40\" type=\"hidden\">\r\n\t<\/form>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\t-->\r\n\t<p>The more I look at my project and the fact that it TECHNICALLY does in fact roast coffee now&#8230; 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